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“Amid the fall-out from US President Donald Trump's announcement on Twitter that transgender people will not be able to serve in the US military, one statistic has been frequently raised to draw attention to the comparatively small estimated costs of transgender healthcare.
It refers to the amount the Pentagon spends on erectile dysfunction medication annually: about $84m (£63m), according to the Military Times newspaper.
In contrast, the Rand Corporation think tank estimated last year that gender transition-related health care costs for transgender personnel would increase the military's active duty health budget by $8.4m per year at the most.
But why does the US defence department spend so much on erectile dysfunction drugs?
First, it is worth pointing out that the Military Times' February 2015 report based its figure on 2014 data from the Defense Health Agency.
The spend of $84.2m was for that year, but the newspaper also reported that $294m had been spent on Viagra, Cialis and other such medications since 2011.
It pointed out that this cost the equivalent of more than a few fighter jets.
In 2014, some 1.18 million prescriptions were filled, mostly for Viagra. But who were they for? The answer goes some way in explaining the massive spend.”
Read more here: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40741785
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It's not a tiny fraction. It's 10%. Now look at the balance. Every man can use viagra -- if they don't need it, then at least for fun. Also "for fun" trannies change their shit. How many trannies are there in the military? Like 8? So taking care of those fucks would be a million a piece. Whereas viagra is a buck a pop, and you make a million guys happy,
I can't believe people are joking about this, these poor men have ptsd from friends dying not a quick and painless death whilst fighting for YOUR freedoms. My grandfather was in the Korean War (British army) and a squad of soldiers was captured and being tortured as pow's (a war crime), his platoon wanted to go and save them but they were told to wait for reinforcements the next day, however they decided to disobey orders and accepted the trouble they would get in and the risk on their lives and went to save the man on their own that night, upon arriving he saw rotten bodies of British soldiers and tortured dead soldiers, he was discharged from the army for this and he blamed himself for their deaths, when I was younger I asked him about his time in the army and he spared me any gruesome detail as I was only 9'but I noticed him trying to hold back tears until he started crying uncontrollably, the poor man never got a nights sleep for the rest of his life. Sorry for going on I just wanted to explain why it's incredibly personal to me and why they need help as civilians, viagra pills are one thing of many set up to help these grave men. Please be considerate to those who died for your freedoms, and yes this WAS a time when wars were not senseless like the wars today where people like Hillary Clinton allow 18 year olds to die for oil
You can roughly estimate that there are at least 100 men for every trans person in the military before the ban occurred.
100:1 ratio of men to trans people
$8.4 million on total medical expenses for trans operations
$84 million for erectile dysfunction medication (which actually treats symptoms that are brought on from military service)
When you do the math, you see that the trans treatments are 10 times more expensive than the erectile dysfunction medications, per person.
On top of being 10 times cheaper per person, erectile dysfunction can actually be caused by military service, so it would stand to reason that it is owed to solders to help them with that issue.
I personally think the bigger issue with trans people in the military is how do you train them? If a trans woman still has her penis, do you make her shower with the men or the women? Or do you give them their own facility for showering, which would be another big expense. If a trans man is put into training with the other men, and he showers with them but is the only one with a vagina, I can guarantee there will be issues.
Did you know that some heartless bureaucrat has limited the number of boner pills to no more than 8 per month if you are patient in the military system? This has been true for more than a decade, Seriously I need to know how they got this arbitrary number... The bureaucratic drama and set of decisions that must have gone into this must have been priceless!!!
You guys are fucked up for attacking this. Just talk about the Trans issue and have that as the title. Don't attack something that helps a soldier that fought to feed his family get back to a normal life. Maybe have the viagra cost as a bullet point, not as the main argument. All the anti-depressants in the world won't help if you can't enjoy one of the few basic pleasures of life.
that's ridiculous for you to mention the president's vacations you think he's going to stop that to save to save some money for the taxpayer are you kidding me what freaking en are you living in buddy? that is a dumb observation suggestion that ain't going nowhere what politicians going to f****** do that come on man wake the f****** !!
First off, you need to stop getting drunk before writing comments online. Second, did your boy Obama stop his vacations to save tax payers money? I seem to recall a 500 million dollar safari to Africa. Did he really need to do that?
While I absolutely despise Trump and can't wait for him to leave, I'm on the fence over the transgender "thing". I don't have any problem with transgender individuals in the military, but there's a belief (true or not?) that many transgender individuals enlist because they can't afford the sex reassignment surgery. As for viagra (and birth control), I think neither should be covered. Both should be paid for out of one's own pocket.
You people just take everything you see as the truth?
Less than 10% of the Viagra prescribed goes to active duty, the other 90% goes to military retirees and their families. On top of that, ya you can expect ED to occur at a higher rate on the military Vs civilian populations, there's a shit ton of PTSD throughout the ranks after 16 yearsof war.
Comparing Viagra to an elective surgery based on your gender preference is nonsense. It is not the responsibility of the military to conform to you, you conform to the military.
The last thing I want is to disallow someone who is physically and mentally fit from joining, but, the last thing the military needs is to cater to individualism, there is no time for that.
You sign up to do a job and you are medically screened to ensure you can do that job. You sign the dotted line, becoming subject to the UCMJ. At that point, individualism is gone. Adapt or get out.
Former seal team 6, Kristin Bell, is transgender and recognized that therapy/treatment was detrimental to her team readiness and capability; consequently she waited till retirement to express herself. She didn't have the cost footed to the military, she did it on her own which we should commend.
And has anyone stopped to consider the amount of money spent on training, equipping, housing, feeding, etc., all these transgender soldiers? If they are kicked out of the military, can you imagine how much money would be wasted on them? Obviously a lot more than $8.4 million. Every bullet they fired during training, every piece of equipment or munitions, every uniform.
But this was likely all just a distraction & I kinda doubt Trump will actually sign it into law; Congress would likely overturn it immediately.
So what if this is simply another way for Trump to distract from the investigations and ties of him and his administration with Russia? It's not like Trump would be above doing something so callous and controversial to protect himself. He was all-in for LGBT before, as we know, but now he suddenly changes his mind when it was never an issue on his campaign trail? Come on, don't let the Orange King fool you again. He doesn't give a crap about transgenders in the military or what the costs are, he only cares about himself. Trump is a con man and this fact about him will never change.
you have to think about this rationally. people with gender disphoria are more likely to eventually develop depression or become suicidal.
people are rejected from service every day because of the potential for more expensive conditions they can develop later, which at the point are on the military's dime.
How many soldiers have physical injuries that caused erectile dysfunction? Should never making love with their spouse going forward in life be a fair outcome for those families? And, what the hell does one of these things have to do with the other?
I'm sure that 84 million covers a 1000 times more people than the 8.4 million that trannies are taking. Greedy freaks. These clowns think that a bigger expense justifies a sick, stupid smaller one? Most viewers of this channel are gullible enough to fall for this too.
Stop making this ridiculous comparison between birth control and viagra. I'm pro birth control, but jesus, you KNOW what the difference is. Folks out there don't want any impediment to babies being born. Viagra is not at all the same thing. Christ, you're not advancing the argument by being dishonest.
speakingg as an ex army medic ill say this. while there are many arguments to be had about trans being or not being in the military, but cost isntone of them. fun fact, military has been paying for boobjobs for years for female service member who go to phyc and dont basicly feel "pretty enough". same kind of surgery. personally i dont beleave they should be paying for any of it. serve your country save the moeny you make while your doing so. money like that should be going to mental healthcare for veterans. also fyi viagra isnt just perscribed for getting an erection, it also used for pulmonary hypertension treatment. just so you are aware.
Most Soldiers are real men who give less than a shit about what's between the legs of the soldier beside them in combat. It's the pathetic little boys whose tiny manhood is threatened by such things, cowards whose bravery extends to being bigoted trolls from hiding.
Transgender people have a mental disease. He is using the expenses as a cover to not call them retards. I have asthma and am a fit athlete but I still can't join the military. The fact that Obama allowed people with gender dysphoria in pissed me off because I've wanted to join the military my whole life and he would allow people with a mental disability over me.
Transgenders or demanding to be treated fairly in the women's showers. They just want to bully us. Transgenders think oh if the women accepts me, than I will feel like a real woman. Wrong! No matter what transgenders do to themselves, heterosexual men will never see them as women. Yes transgenders scares me, I have never met a nice transgender.
I think it is time someone pointed out that soldiers are meant to SHOOT not ROOT an enemy. $84 million on Viagra? Does trump own the company? I can't think of any other reason for the pentagon to be spending that much money of Viagra.
The military deliberately puts chemicals in military food intended for troops that stops them from having to move their bowels. This was admitted. It isn't out of line to think that they have been adding chemicals to prevent physical arousal, especially considering the staggering number of sexual assaults committed by US troops against women troops and local women in occupied nations.
Compare apples to apples, what is the cost per person... Now mind you, I am not saying that cost alone should prevent the U.S. Govt from providing transition services to the service members desiring such care, however don't feign outrage about the cost when you are not doing it in an honest way. Talk about the cost per patient, not the total cost. At least Ana and Cenk were honest in stating near the end that it isn't about the money... Which means that the whole cost argument is bull. I think that you have a much more solid argument stating that it's about the politics and power to control people's lives. Leave the Viagra out of the argument, it's a strawman, TYT should be better than strawman arguments.
Its really childish to pull the "military is paying for boners but won't pay for fake dicks" argument. Trans are banned because they aren't mentally stable enough to go to combat and are a problem to combat readiness. Gender disphoria is a mental illness and needing to take medication constantly makes you a problem when it can affect your mental state. You snowflakes don't understand that trans people have issues outside of the military and you have the nerve to think they could make it in a military constantly affected by stress.
When I was in the military. I wanted longer lasting erections. So I went to Dr and told him I had issue getting a boner. So I got 100mg pills of Viagra the same day. Of course I only needed 25mg of the pill...
most of the military are men
ptsd cause issues
trans ppl make up a very tiny amount,
ppl who are going from one gender to another tend to have mental issues that can affect their ability. things like mood swings, anxiety , and depression.
These dumb libtards! Viagra isn't just boner medicine. It's also used to treat pulmonary hypertension. Sure, there's probably a lot of fraud involved, but that's true of all of government. I think the real reason for the ban is because transgender people are mentally ill, and letting them serve would be unfair to schizophrenics, bi-polars, and full blown wackoloons. Trust me. That was the right decision. The military is no place for sociological experiments.
For the first time Trump is trying to be political correct, it's about transgender metal health. People with bipolar even depression can't join. Only one year have trans been serving openly and already they want sex change, hormones paid for. Plus the millions Obama wanting to spend for training soldiers how to deal with trans and how soldiers deal with other countries who see trans evil. 85% of people get rejected from military. It should be the best of the best and keep women out of the fighting. I for one think if our soldiers need some prostitutes to help them out we should pay for that too. Our military men are REALLY giving their lives for us. They should get what ever they want.
"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised the United States Government will not accept or allow Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military" Prince of Darkness
When, where, who, why etc. etc
Names of generals
Names of military experts
Where did they get their information about numbers and costs????
Are the fake generals afraid they will lose their free Viagra?
There needs to be accountability for this statement. According to leading Google News headlines ad stories the top military brass were NOT involved.
This tweet has no foundation unless there is an investigation on where this freak got his BS story from.
Congress needs to address this fabricated fake tweet/news/facts. He is a fraud and needs to be exposed. He drug the largest military on Earth into a stew of lies which puts all living things on this planet at risk. The commander in chief needs to be held accountable. What military officers etc have gone against the military position? They need to be exposed. He needs to be exposed as a danger to all life. A crazy liar has NO business having anything to do with nuclear or much of anything. He needs to be busted jailed or put in a rest home NOW!
The maker of Viagra just made a deal to start selling generic Viagra so people who can get the generic form will be able to save hundreds on a script.......And the military and the VA should be able to save millions because the VA can legally shop for cheaper generics.
US soldier are not "put in danger" or "made to risk their lives". They are sent to be broken. They are then sent to be scrambled. And when time comes for them to rest and be healed, they are often treated like damaged goods.
I wish the description of their service would reflect what they are made to do and see, and not what a recruitment pamphlet prints in bold.
They might spend 10x more on treatment for erectile dysfunction, but I bet it's for way more than 10x the number of people. I'd bet it's easily 100x more. Also, this is badly researched and reported because yeah it's not about the cost but it's also not even appealing to his base specifically; it's about making concessions to ultraconservative Republicans so that they'll pass the $790 billion military spending bill going through Congress right now. The tweets are not even remotely "out of nowhere".
Viagra was originally a blood pressure medication used to dialate blood vessels and increase blood flow. Mountain climbers use it all the time. It would make sense that soldiers would use it in that application as well.
If you look at the time period where people are taking boner pills,
You can see ED is increased over that time period.
Do the pills create "wood?" yes, but they seem to create a need for them to get hard.
More studies are needed to see if they create a "dependence" to take them. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
If I ever had that problem, I'd try everything else first. Relax, Smoke some weed, and/or some drink,
have yer girl strip for you, watch some porn with her n slowly let it happen. (I can't imagine that not working.)
If you really need pills, I'd recommend trying the lowest dosage necessary, and as sparingly as possible.
The more you take it, The more you might need to.
You're comparing cosmetic surgery to an actual physical dysfunction that men are getting prescriptions for.
You know what a real hormonal imbalance is? PCOS. That actually requires hormonal treatment. You need to really think through this transgenderism funny business and travel down every logical angle, because you're acting like clowns.
military defending the country? big money interests? just being straight up animal? we best we smash. usa, usa, usa, usa....word salad, ideology apologists. sometimes it's just assholes being assholes.
Erectile dysfunction (ED) is a problem with getting and maintaining an erection that’s firm enough to have sexual intercourse. All men have trouble getting an erection from time to time, and the likelihood of this problem increases with age. If it happens to you often, though, you may have ED.
Viagra is a prescription drug that can help men with erectile dysfunction. For many people, romance means candlelight, soft music, and a glass of wine. The little blue pill, Viagra, can be part of this picture, but only if you drink small or moderate amounts of alcohol.