Casinos seem to look at their business as an amusement park of sorts, pay for the rides, have some fun, maybe you'll win some money, probably not. But people like money, and they aren't viewing it as an amusement park, but as a job. Kind of naive on the part of casinos, in my opinion.
Cheating mofo. Had help from a mysterious lady in every cheat he did. It wasn't just the uk. He went where the cards were. Lied and cheated until he was legal...says it all - then claims he's not a cheat. Buuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllll 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
Leave it to James Brown to play the race card over black and red cards...prick. color has no reason in poker...plus cheating has been around in poker for years and if you've been consulted to protect casinos for 25 years and haven't made a dent....you need to be fired
Oh come on now. At what point is that not fun anymore? At what point with all these "Demands at time of play, does the thrill of winning no longer exist? I mean can it really still be called gambling if all these strategic options can be deployed? I'm sorry but it just frustrates me when people like him are talking about how unfair it is that their making his lifestyle of betting $5,000 a hand so difficult for him & how he's just a normal guy trying to live & collect his $20,000,000 in winnings. And all this while their are literally CHILDREN DYING OF THIRST & HUNGER. They're are literally children holding their stomachs in pain from hunger while people like him & like Oprah who pretended they care so much spend literally millions on things they don't need. Oprah donates a million and talks about how she can't stop thinking about those dying and in need. Well she forgot about them long enough to spend millions on shoes & purses. SHOES & PURSES. Give me a break
I love to watch Phil play as reminds me so much Favre’s, Michael’s or Tigers’s intensity. It is a shame it had to go to courts as would have rather seen the casinos just ban him if they felt necessary and written it off as a lesson learned.
This is why I stopped going to casinos... if you win a lot of their money they call you a cheater. I was casual player, I would take no more than $200 and if I lost that... I'm out. Occasionally I'd win a couple hundred but that's it, most of the time lost. One day I sat down at a $5 minimum $500 max black jack table. Toke $60 out of my pocket playing $5 a hand... hit a winning streak. Next thing you know I'm playing two hands $500 each. I could not loose. Dealer showing 10, I have 18 and figure the dealer may have 20... hit me and a 3 comes. Just one of them days. Next thing I know a pit boss taps me on the shoulder pulls me aside and I see a casino worker gathering my chips and I'm asked to leave and never come back. I asked why and was told I'm a card counter. I to this day have no idea how to count cards. It's been explained to me but again, I was a casual player... cannot and do not count cards. I was allowed to keep the money.. quite a bit I must say but I am still shocked I was banned from the casino. As said, it was just one of those day where it seemed I could do nothing wrong. Have not been to any casino since. It's all fine and dandy as long as they are taking your money but take too much of their's and you're labeled a cheater... although from my understanding counting cards is not cheating either... as Ivey puts it and even the professional casino worker in the piece said... it is not cheating... just something a player can use to his/her advantage.
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The casinos are just pissed because they only saw millions in profit and found a way to win that the casinos didn't like. They gave him everything he asked for because they were blinded by the dollar signs. They never gave credit where it is due. He happens to have an ability to edge sort, i'm sure if he can do that he can count cards as well. Anything a player can do to gain an advantage is cheating or frowned upon. However, anything the house can do to increase its advantage is smart or good business. Double standards are great aren't they?
In this case Phil Ivey could NOT win against the casino because the casino knew it was definitely a cheat so they allowed him to play by his requests/rules so they can sue him if he wins but if he loses, duh...casino is smart AF.
The cheat was card manipulation with an acquaintance, an Asian dealer. Some would say, ‘but the casino allowed him to’....ha ha that’s the point so they can sue him if he wins. You can never outsmart the wise guys LOL.
So the big casino dudes who have judges as friends send Ivey's request to the judges to see if they can spin it in their favor in the event that Ivey wins big. Judge reads and says OK, It's gonna embarrass both of us if he wins big but since we're all shameless well get over it quick while taking back his money.
He said Race didn’t play a part but the fact that the 2casino are taking him to court is because he is black- No other black man has been in court that I’ve heard off. Give the man his money if it was up to the casinos to PAY out they wouldn’t MAKE UP some rubbish like the Slots machine defaulted. People LOSE there whole Life on gambling and casinos don’t give a toss.
"has race been a factor" wtf kind of question is that? everyone that watches the program can see that, so why does the host need to state "you are black". why does everything has to be about race? and why is it always the left and many black people that has to bring up race. they are pissing away real racism out there...
Saw that “did race play a factor” question coming from a mile away god that was cringey. It’s 2018 asians give up like 400pts on the sats to their african american counterparts where are the cries about institutional racism then?
At the end of the day, he's just smarter... That's all. You fix the game not the players. Coaches found out having a Skinner, faster guy play wide receiver was better. So someone countered it. Pay the man!
I think they must settle with Ivey. He played with their cards. He DID NOT cut them. They agreed to conditions. Had he lost they would have kept his money. Because they lost, they make a big deal out of that. Big pussies!
Casinos always label winners by charging them with cheating when all they have done is beat the system, Phil's a winner so of course they're going to accuse him of cheating, the casinos just want it all their own way.
Then why don't you casinos, with your billions of dollars, figure out a way to PERFECTLY cut casino cards? You allowed him to play the game, with YOUR CARDS. He won that money before you accused him of an advantage and kicked him out. Bullshit to sue for that money. It's nothing to you, you greedy bastards. Pay the man.
Fuckin desperately wanted him to say yes to the race baiting question!! Typical!! That's why being called a racist means the same as someone telling you that they just ate a jam sandwich!!! It means zero!
The courts ruling on this case is an absolute travesty. Casinos set up everything in their casino to get an advantage over the players. And I mean everything. From their rooms that you stay in, the way the casino floor is laid out, free booze and to the fact there are no clocks anywhere to be seen and that's just a few examples. Everything is meticulously designed to keep you in the casino, where they have the advantage. So, with these rulings, doesn't that mean that I should get back every dime that I've lost over the last thirty years? It sure seems like it does to me.
I well known power player makes a list of requests and the casino personnel think nothing of it. That's all I would have to hear as the judge on the case before I dismiss it. At no point did any of them think to investigate and determine why the requests were being made. Just plain stupid and it's their own fault that they were taken advantage of. I wouldn't just agree to a list of request from someone coming to try and take my money. I would automatically assume that there's a motive and look into it before I give an answer. PATHETIC...
I challenged Phil to a coke-off once back in the 90's. After going back and fourth, line for line, 30 mins straight, I tapped out. Phil did one last line before saying, "Now you know why they call me Ivey" No shit? I said laughing to myself.
Before Phil left I asked him if he was okay/cool to drive. He said, "yeah man I'm fine" I only asked because before our coke-off his eye's were smaller, almost as if he was squinting. I said Phil, Do you know that look on a man's face when his girlfriend finds out he's got a wife on the side? Well Phil, your eye's are bigger than booty cheeks 👀)
Phil Ivey has always been a champion, at everything he's ever done. Never underestimate a man's heart, especially when it comes to pride, to be a champion, to do cocaine.
The casinos freerolled him. They knew that despite him having the edge he could have lost due to bad luck, or if he won they could refuse to pay him and let him sue them in court. Kind of like the old mafia, although the old Vegas mafia probably would have cared enough about their reputation not to have pulled this.
I wonder if Ivey told them the reason he wanted to use the shuffle machine or if like they say he said it was superstition. If he misled them which just watching him not directly answering questions about the stuff, that seems to be the case. I don't like hm, along with a few others that are "big names", and I wondered trust him as far as I could throw a 500 pound person. My opinion, the casinos keep their money bases on his misleading them on the reasons for his requests.
lol thats a stupid reason they agreed to his terms so they shouldnt cry when they lose. also the casino always has a way bigger advantage but it only worls in their favour if you win they say its not fair wanna bet if it was the oppisite they wouldnt complain?
thats the reason i dont go to casinos they can refuse to pay you for every reason they see fit its 1 big scam and even if you win you get fucked over
a friend of mine once won 1000 bucks they accused im of cheating too he didnt cheat at all but its impossible to proof you didnt cheat so you always get fucked.
they have to proof you cheated and this guy didnt cheat
and my brain is working fine thank you not too sure about yours though because I dont see you make ANY argument
He knew he wouldn't be allowed to play there if they knew why he wanted his "partner" with him, what he wanted a shuffler. They have the right to refuse him or anyone for any reason and playing with that big of an advantage. Go home fool, doesn't tale much to see how your brain works. It IS their business to know they didn't ask why he drinks what he does, now THAT is none of their business stupid.
You notice Ivey isn’t in Prison, or charged with anything..the casino has an edge all the time..phil found an edge of his own and he requested things from the casino to gain that edge and they accepted it! They were money hungry when he wired that 3mill and phil beat them...they lost and cried to MOMMY (judges/court) Fuck the U.K. and their judges the US needs to wake up and realize casinos always have an edge..they offer drinks to get you drunk(edge), they only show one card in black jack(edge), they have 2 green slots in roulette (edge) we can choose not to play, Ivey asked for certain things like the brand of a deck, an Asian dealer, and his friend to be there and they accepted his requests..they could have said NO..but they wanted his money...idiots and the courts are idiots for falling for this crap from the casino..they even had he nerve to sue the card company..I would NEVER go to the borgata..my luck I’d win a slot for 50k and they would say I pressed the button a way that gave me an edge..WAKE UP JUDGE the casino is playing you too
It’s crazy that U.K. took the casinos side and the US case he also lost but still has that money and is appealing..he beat these assholes at their own game..why can’t a judge see that..casinos take take take take..and they get beat finally BIG and they go crying to MOMMY (courts)..unreal..bitches
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